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jocosa)A small tidbit to ease your "how is it Sunday night already?!" blues.
I don't do cuts! I post what I post, if you don't like it, don't respond.
Pizza served with a side of attitude.
ETA - In case of flounce I just grabbed a cap as it stands right now. I'm heading out for a couple hours though so if it grows more can someone please get anything after this? I'd appreciate it! I'm current through Elirica's comment.
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linguisticstahnan)The Ethnologue has a list of fifty language isolates (including, e.g., Korean), but it also has a handful of language families that contain exactly one language, such as Basque. Does anyone know if there's a technical difference between being an isolate and being in a one-language family? Or is this an historical accident of categorization?
sf_dramatreesofvalinor)atheismockhamsadvocate)An Adventist friend asked me at work last week how I was going to teach my kids any morals when I was an atheist. So I asked him if he believed in the Aztec, Roman, Nordic, Egyptian or any other gods and he said of course not. Then I asked him why he didn't believe in them, and he replied because they just didn't make sense and went on to explain why. I told him I agreed totally with his logic, but I applied it to all religions consistently. I said we were both Atheists, the only difference was that I was a consistent atheists, and he is an inconsistent one.
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So, whenever I win a religious debate with my mom, everyone in the house is made miserable. Which is why I don't normally get into arguments with her and try to keep my head down. But there is only so much one can take when being called an immoral disgrace.
I am requesting particular Bible passages from Leviticus that list some ridiculous restrictions for people who obey god. I recall an instance in which god tells his followers not to eat shrimp, I was wondering if anyone had that exact passage and other good ones to point out that even Catholics have subjective morality when it comes to following god's rules.
Thanks in advance.
atheismfatpie42)Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, has done a lot that's annoyed me. He expressed support for the 'lower the time limit for abortion' movement which very nearly succeeded, he has always been cryptic on the issue of women bishops rather than giving them his full support and he has spoken out against secularism on a number of occasions.
All this being said, he has recently warned against giving too much support for faith-based activism:
Faith communities did not begin from a "clear Englightenment doctrine" of universal liberties, Williams said. "They are necessarily exclusive in the sense that they are committed to particular beliefs that not everyone shares. There is always a suspicion that they will favour their own or that they are using aid and development as a vehicle for propaganda on behalf of their own convictions, a cloak for proselytism.
"The development agency may come to see religion as a positive obstacle to liberation. Faced with the rise of aggressive religious conservatism all this longstanding unease becomes more sharply focused."
sf_dramadavid_grana)atheismcyranothe2nd)Answer in Genesis' Bodgie Hodge has positited a "moral" answer to the hypothetical question:
You know the whereabouts of a family of Jews hiding from the Nazis. A Nazi patrol comes up to you and asks where they are; you, a good God-fearing Christian, can either lie and say you don't know (which would be bad, because, like, lying is a sin), or you could tell the truth, and the Nazis would zip off and search for and presumably execute the family. What do you do?
If we love God, we should obey Him (John 14:15). To love God first means to obey Him first--before looking at our neighbor. So, is the greater good trusting God when He says not to lie or trusting in our fallible, sinful minds about the uncertain future?
Consider this carefully. In the situation of a Nazi beating on the door, we have assumed a lie would save a life, but really we don't know. So, one would be opting to lie and disobey God without the certainty of saving a life--keeping in mind that all are ultimately condemned to die physically. Besides, whether one lied or not may not have stopped the Nazi solders from searching the house anyway.As Christians, we need to keep in mind that Jesus Christ reigns. All authority has been given to Him (Matthew 28:18), and He sits on the throne of God at the right hand of the Father (Acts 2:33; Hebrews 8:1). Nothing can happen without His say. Even Satan could not touch Peter without Christ's approval (Luke 22:31). Regardless, if one were to lie or not, Jesus Christ is in control of timing every person's life and able to discern our motives. It is not for us to worry over what might become, but rather to place our faith and obedience in Christ and to let Him do the reigning. For we do not know the future, whereas God has been telling the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10).
www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2009/11/13/feedback-righteous-lie
Wow--so, we should totally give up the Jews to the Nazis because Jesus will save them. Silly me, I thought the slaughter of 6 million people was NOT god's fault, but the fault if a Godless atheist, according to these ppl. O_O
sf_dramawallynotorious)atheismockhamsadvocate)I was watching a program with my students today when a bisexual man came onto the screen and immediately one of my students shouted out that he should be killed. All the students agreed, and it was not a joking agreement, it was a dead cold agreement. I stopped the program and asked them why, and all 18 Muslim students said it was what God wanted because it was not natural because animals do not display homosexual behaviour. I showed them proof that animals do display homosexual behaviour and it therefore it is totally natural. One student said that just because animals do it, it does not make it natural. I asked him to explain when people engage in homosexual activity they are being possessed by Jin (the supernatural) and therefore they must be killed so as to kill the Jinn at the same time. Another student said that Muslims believe that all animals have souls and pray to god, and the animals displaying homosexual behaviour must be the ones that pray to the devil! When I asked them were they got these views from they all said their parents, the mosque and the Quran. I tried to say that this homosexual was not a Muslim and surely he should be free to follow his own sexuality, and they responded that because God can see what he was doing he should still be killed! One then added that just because scientists say it’s happening in nature it doesn’t mean that it is, and that God trumps science anyhow. So I asked him that if his child was dying of diabetes and he had the choice to give him insulin or prayer but not both what would he choose. He said the prayer every time. So I told him that parents in America had done just that and their children had died. His response was, “at least they’ve got God on their side”!
Now the problem is that I’ve been told by my college to tackle discrimination, promote equality, and respect students beliefs and cultures. But how can I do that when the students’ beliefs and cultures seem to be promoting the very discrimination I’m supposed to be challenging? These are 16-19 year old male students who are displaying extreme bigotry and hatred towards other human beings just for having a different sexual persuasion.
As a side note the only two students who did not care about the homosexual said they also did not believe in god.
sf_dramakarnythia)sf_dramanmdrkangl)atheismhatter23)http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/1
CINCINNATI, Nov. 13 (UPI) -- A pro-atheism billboard in Cincinnati was being moved to a different location in response to alleged threats two days after it was put up, sponsors said.
The copy on the billboard reads: "Don't Believe In God? You are not alone." It was put up Tuesday but was taken down Thursday because the owner of the property where it was posted reported receiving threats because of the message, WCPO-TV, Cincinnati, reported Thursday.
Fred Edwords, national director of the United Coalition of Reason, which sponsored the billboard, said the organization was contacted by Lamar Advertising of Cincinnati on behalf of the landowner.
"We weren't given the landowner's identity or precise details," Edwords said. "Nor did we pursue them. It was sufficient to learn that multiple, significant threats had been received and that Lamar would act quickly to alleviate the problem."
"Everything that has happened shows just how vital our message is," Shawn Jeffers, co-coordinator for the Cincinnati Coalition of Reason, said. "It proves our point, that bigotry against people who don't believe in a god is still very real in America."
Jack Jones of Downtown told the TV station he thinks the sign should not be put up.
"It's atheist," he said.
atheismskajoe)A simple video on the Bible and the attack on marriage equality.
atheismcyranothe2nd)atheismdresden_blitzed)Catholic Church gives D.C. Ultimatum
"The Catholic Archdiocese of Washington said Wednesday that it will be unable to continue the social service programs it runs for the District if the city doesn't change a proposed same-sex marriage law, a threat that could affect tens of thousands of people the church helps with adoption, homelessness and health care."
full story here
Words...there are none.
atheismtekiclutch)Any thoughts about the whole "zomg atheist billboards" thing that has been going on?
I feel really ambivalent about all this kind of crap. I honestly think putting more open atheists out in the community (volunteers in particular) would be a lot more productive to raise awareness and would frankly cause less of a counter-productive shit storm. Any thoughts?
atheismcaptain_brad)atheismcyranothe2nd) One of my friends on Facebook posted a poll about whether we were suffering God's wrath for daring to approve gay marriage in some states (he thinks yes). And then an old boyfriend of mine posted this gem:
"In NYC there are over 2 million more women then men. So if every man were married there would still be over 2 million single women. Then you put the homosexual male population into the mix, which takes more men out of the pool of available husbands..... Women have needs and since they can't find a man to satisfy them (and I'm not just talking about sexual needs) they'll go to homosexuality because its being marketed to the public as acceptable behavior. It's always been the case that there have been more women then men, and many prophets we know had several wives. Even during the times of the prophets. The examples we should be following. Its sad that people of faith will choose disobedience to God over the examples he revealed to us."
Rofl at the utter fail.
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"I Believe" License Banned by Judge
by Richard S. Chang
A United States District Judge has struck down a Christian-themed license plate that had been approved by the South Carolina Legislature, reports the BBC.
Judge Cameron Currie ruled that the plate was a violation of the First Amendment, which prohibits Congress from making a law “respecting an establishment of religion.” The South Carolina plate featured an image of a cross in front of a stained-glass window, accompanied by the words “I Believe.” ( Read more... )
It's a small victory, but it's nice to hear good news about this kind of stuff for a change.
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sf_dramanmdrkangl)sf_dramaoh_annalouise)atheismnosmokegirl)hee hee hee, it's just one of the questions on the religion flow chart
just for your general amusement. :)
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IN 1910, A COHORT of ultra-conservative American Protestants drew up a list of non-negotiable beliefs they insisted any genuine Christian must subscribe to...Their catalog featured doctrines such as the virgin birth, the physical resurrection of Christ, and his imminent second coming. The cornerstone, though, was a belief in the literal inerrancy of every syllable of the Bible, including in matters of geology, paleontology, and secular history. They called these beliefs fundamentals, and proudly styled themselves “fundamentalists” - true believers who feared that liberal movements like the social gospel and openness to other faiths were eroding the foundation of their religion.
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THE VARIOUS MOVEMENTS we lump together as “fundamentalist” differ from one another, but they bear some family resemblances. Each reaches back selectively into its own tradition and exhumes some text or rite or pattern, declaring it to be the bedrock of faith. For Protestant fundamentalists, it was a righteous society in which, they believed, a verbally inspired Bible had held sway. For Catholics, especially after Vatican II, it was the Latin Mass, the symbol of a changeless authoritative tradition. For Muslims it was the short era of the “rightly guided caliphs” who led Islam immediately after the death of the Prophet, before disunity shattered their community and outsiders warped their civilization.
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